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Items
No. Item

1.

WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed attendees to the meeting and asked for introductions. 

2.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

Minutes:

No apologies for absence were received.

 

 

3.

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING pdf icon PDF 526 KB

To approve the minutes of the meeting held on 1 April 2019.

Minutes:

The minutes of the previous meeting, held on 1 April 2019, were approved and signed by the Chair as a correct record. 

4.

ACTION LOG pdf icon PDF 92 KB

Minutes:

In relation to the action from the meeting which took place on 25 July 2018 the Board noted that dates for the body-worn camera footage viewings needed to be set. Inspector Walton confirmed that the viewings could be shown to no more than 2 named Group members at a time.  The Chair said that she had attended a pan-London meeting around Stop and Search where it was confirmed that MOPAC were re-writing the policy around viewing body-worn camera footage.  The Chair then suggested that Ms Brueseke let the police know who the names members of the YIAG would be as soon as it was decided. 

 

In relation to the action from the meeting which took place on 1 April 2019, Inspector Walton referred to a handout which he tabled which provided details of the number of Section 60s between May to 7 July 2019. 

5.

YIAG PRESENTATION

Minutes:

Representatives from the YIAG provided an update on the work undertaken since the last Stop and Search Group meeting on 1 April 2019.  The update is electronically available on the Council’s website as an appendix to the minutes. 

 

A member of the public raised a question in relation to the Streetbase training that the YIAG provide, in particular, the content of the training and whether young people were being taught how to recognise when they are being treated unfairly and to know their legal rights, for example, during a stop and search.  A member of the YIAG stated that in relation to Streetbase, young people were not trained in that regard however explained that recognising rights was definitely part of the general training that the YIAG provided to young people. 

 

Ms Baah referred to the targeting of hot spots and asked what sort of responses were being received from young people.  A representative from the YIAG confirmed that the response had been very good.  They explained that Instagram and Snapchat had been set up as a way to contact young people as many were not keen on providing their contact information and were more amenable to provide social media accounts as a method of contact. 

 

Ms Baah asked whether there was a database of young people with mental health issues.  The YIAG confirmed that such a database had been built and explained that they would tell such young people about other avenues of support in addition to Child and Mental Health Services (CAMHS).  The YIAG representative also said that they held a database of contact numbers for support in case a young person needs a mentor for example.  They added that such young people were also tracked and contacted to see how they were doing.  If a young person did not attend an appointment with a mentor we would contact them to find out why and see if there was anything that could be adjusted to make the visit more accessible.

 

The Chair asked for more details around the timings of patrols that the YIAG attended.  The YIAG explained that there was 3 hours to each patrol on 3 days a week.  On half-term it’s 3 hours a day for 5 days a week.  The YIAG explained that the patrols could take place at any time but to date had not taken place later than 8.30pm.

 

The Chair then asked how parents were informed and made aware of such engagement with young people.  She stated that many parents were not familiar with social media applications.  The YIAG confirmed that liaising with parents would not be a role undertaken by Streetbase as it centred on peer to peer work.  The Chair stated that there was some great work being undertaken by the YIAG but said that there needed to be some thought on what was required for parents.  Mr Dundon referred to the Manhood Academy – an academy for young black men who do not have positive role models –  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

6.

QUESTIONS TO METROPOLITAN POLICE pdf icon PDF 108 KB

Minutes:

The following sets out questions formulated by the Stop and Search Monitoring Group (as published in the agenda pack) and the Metropolitan Police’s responses.  It also includes a summary of supplementary questions asked and responses. 

 

1.    Please provide information on the monitoring of individuals who had been stopped and searched.

 

Response

Inspector Walton explained that following any stop and search there would be a follow-up to ascertain whether there were any unaddressed safeguarding concerns.  He said that the follow up was a significant undertaking and conceded that, as a result of this, officers had not always followed up as they should. 

 

Ms Farquhar asked, in the event of someone under 18 years old being stopped and nothing illegal is found on that person, whether a follow up would still take place.  Inspector Walton explained that many young people did not want their parents to know that they had been stopped but confirmed that a follow up would still take place.  Inspector Walton added that on many occasions young people would provide a false address and said that providing an address was not a requirement when someone was stopped and searched.  He also explained that some parents had submitted complaints as they were not aware of searches on their children.  Inspector Walton then said that when someone was stopped and searched there would usually be some form of anti-social behaviour associated with that stop.  He explained that it was for that reason that a follow up was necessary and said that the Council were keen for follow ups to take place.  He explained that the guidance from the Metropolitan Police had indicated that following a stop and search police officers should complete a form indicating that a young person has come to notice.  Ms Farquhar pointed out that data processors would need to be careful how that information was used as it was personal data as defined by the data protection regulations.

 

Inspector Walton went on to explain that the intention was that officers do whatever they could to look after the child.  He said that if a child came to notice and they had been stopped and searched previously and there was an issue with no joined-up approach then the Police would be criticised. 

 

Ms Edwards, journalist, expressed grave concerns in relation to young people’s personal database being kept on a database.  She said what constitutes ASB for one person may not for another.  Inspector Walton stated that the Police were legally required to keep a record although acknowledged that taking names and email addresses was where the issue became unclear.  He said that if there was clear evidence of ASB then the officer would be required to take details. 

 

A representative from the YIAG suggested utilising the assistance of partner organisations to approach young people who were stopped and searched and where ASB was identified to be a concern.  The representative stated that often young people were reluctant to provide personal details to the Police and said that other  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

7.

BODYWORN CAMERA FOOTAGE FEEDBACK

Minutes:

Inspector Walton stated that there were no body-worn camera viewings currently arranged and said that only official members of the Stop and Search Group were allowed to attend the viewings.  He confirmed that only two members of the Group at a time could attend viewings and said that as soon as he was notified which named members of the Group would be attending viewings then he would get them arranged. 

 

The Chair stated that MOPAC had confirmed that the policy on viewing body-worn camera footage was being re-written.    

8.

MEMBERSHIP

Minutes:

Sandra DaCosta confirmed that he had resigned as Chair of the Stop and Search Group but would remain a member of the Group.  It was confirmed that Wendy Baah, the Vice-Chair would be interim Chair until a new Chair was appointed. 

 

Mr Dundon thanked Ms DaCosta for her many years’ service and hard work as Chair of the Stop and Search Group.  He said that Ms DaCosta had stepped in to Chair the Group with very little notice and that it was down to her that the Group had more favourable mention than in previous years. 

9.

FUTURE MEETINGS

To note the forthcoming meetings of the Stop and Search Monitoring Group for the remainder of the 2019-20 municipal year:

 

7 October 2019

27 January 2020

20 April 2020

 

 

Minutes:

The Group noted the forthcoming meetings of the Stop and Search Monitoring Group, which were as follows:

 

7 October 2020

27 January 2020

20 April 2020