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Contact: Anthony Jackson, Democratic Services Officer  Email: anthony.jackson@walthamforest.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

1.

WELCOME, INTRODUCTIONS AND GUIDELINES

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed all attendees to the meeting and then asked for introductions. 

2.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

Minutes:

An apology for absence was received from Wendy Baah.

3.

MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING pdf icon PDF 120 KB

To approve the minutes of the meeting held on 10 October 2018.

Minutes:

The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and signed as a correct record. 

4.

ACTION LOG pdf icon PDF 47 KB

Minutes:

The action tracker remained unchanged with the exception of the last entry allocated to PC Richard Graham.  It was noted that this action was to be discharged at this meeting as PC Graham was to deliver the presentation at agenda item 8 ‘any other business’. 

5.

YIAG PRESENTATION

Minutes:

Representatives of the YIAG provided an update on the work undertaken since the last Stop and Search Group meeting on 10 October 2018.  The update is appended to these minutes. 

 

Ms Brueseke added to the update by explaining that the YIAG had attended a community meeting in Leyton hosted by Councillor Karen Bellamy.  She confirmed that each table was facilitated by a YIAG representative where they explained what they could do for the community.  The Chair asked whether the attendees at these community groups would be interested in attending future Stop and Search meetings.  Councillor Khan explained that the meeting being referred to was organised by a charity.  He added that Councillor Karen Bellamy was involved but not in her capacity as a Waltham Forest Councillor.  Councillor Khan went on to say that the key strategy for LBWF was the gangs strategy and said that it might be helpful for the Group to receive a presentation from teams such as the Anti-Social Behaviour Team and the Violence Reduction Team. 

 

The Chair referred to the peer workshop delivered to the Leaders Community Group at the Paradox Centre and asked what feedback had been received.  A representative from the YIAG confirmed that the young people involved were very engaged and many personal stories were shared.  The representative confirmed that the event went very well.  Ms Brueseke added that the young people involved seemed to enjoy contributing to the session and said that organisers had requested that the YIAG return to deliver similar workshops to other age groups. 

6.

QUESTIONS TO THE METROPOLITAN POLICE pdf icon PDF 63 KB

Minutes:

The following sets out questions formulated by the Stop and Search Monitoring Group (as published in the agenda pack) and the Metropolitan Police’s responses.  It also includes supplementary questions asked and responses. 

 

1.    Stop and Search Data- We have considered the online statistics for the London Borough of Waltham Forest, the data for 2018 shows that the most likely group of people to be stopped are 15-19 year old males, however the positive outcomes for this group is lower than average.  Are Waltham Forest Police looking at the data to identify and tackle unconscious bias which appears to be leading to the high stops of these impressionable young people?

 

Response

Superintendent Waheed Khan stated that the Metropolitan Police were aware that stop and search was a controversial power and confirmed that it had been explained to all police officers that they would be accountable for the use of the power.  He conceded that there may be instances of unconscious bias and confirmed that officers received training as part of their induction and ongoing refresher training throughout their career.

 

In relation to why the most likely group to be stopped were males aged 15-19, Superintendent Khan stated that this was not a statistic that was unique to the London Borough of Waltham Forest and confirmed that it was an issue London-wide.  He explained that police officers needed to be satisfied that they had sufficient grounds to make the stop and explained that a major factor in determining those to be stopped was intelligence – he gave the example that if an individual was murdered then the same demographic as the victim would be stopped and searched by police officers. 

 

Ms Farquar referred to the fact that positive outcomes from those stopped were lower than average and questioned whether the aforementioned intelligence to justify the stops was being properly used.  She said that it was important to look at why positive outcomes were lower than average.  Superintendent Khan provided assurances that officers were regularly reminded to use the power appropriately and to base stops on lawful suspicion. 

 

 

2.    The last 3 months of 2018 saw increased average stop and searches carried out, however, the increase mainly appears to be drugs stops and any increase in positive outcomes also appears to be related to drugs.

 

Response

Superintendent Khan said that Body Worn Cameras enabled officers to review how stop and search was being used.  He explained that it was likely that narcotics were easier to detect than other categories but conceded that there was no definitive answer.  Superintendent Khan went on to say that drugs, knives etc. were inter-linked.  He said that stop and search acted as a deterrent in the wider sense.   

 

Mr Dundon referred to the good transport links in the London Borough of Waltham Forest and pointed out that offending tended to take place around these links.  He asked if there was any evidence that people were coming from outside the borough to offend.  Superintendent Khan stated that drugs  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

7.

FUTURE MEETING DATES

The Group will be asked to note the forthcoming meetings of the Stop and Search Monitoring Group, which are as follows:

 

1 April 2019

8 July 2019 (provisional)

7 October 2019 (provisional)

27 January 2020 (provisional)

20 April 2020 (provisional)

 

Minutes:

The Group noted the forthcoming meetings of the Stop and Search Monitoring Group, which were as follows:

 

1 April 2019

8 July 2019 (provisional)

7 October 2019 (provisional)

27 January 2020 (provisional)

20 April 2020 (provisional)

8.

ANY OTHER BUSINESS

Minutes:

The Chair varied the order of business and the following item was delivered immediately after item 5 – YIAG presentation. 

 

Gangs and Serious Youth Violence - presentation

 

PC Richard Graham, Gangs Police Liaison Officer provided the presentation.  He covered the first two slides which explained the lifecycle of a gang member and gang hierarchy.

 

The Chair then asked that, as the presentation was quite lengthy, that a special Stop and Search meeting be organised to allow PC Graham to deliver the full presentation and to take questions from members.  The Chair agreed that the invitation to the presentation be sent to all members of the Stop and Search Group and the Safer Neighbourhood Board.  Ms Farquar asked PC Graham to provide an emphasis on how the information collected on gangs is used by the Police.  PC Graham confirmed that he would be happy to provide the presentation at a future meeting.